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What the hell is it with people, men, women and children alike? What gives you the God-given right to judge people on their appearance? To stare and jeer, point and laugh? Does it make you feel like a better, bigger (no pun intended) person to lower the self-esteem of fat people?

Yes, that is right, I said fat. I reserve the right to use that word as freely as I damn well please, because I am a fat person. Obese? That's just a medically nicer way of calling you fat. Fat by another name is still just as fat. Moving on...

Now, what I don't get is why can't a person be given a chance in hell because of who s/he is rather than because of how s/he looks? Can't anyone see beyond the cover, and read the pages to gain an attraction? I've often discarded several books because the title and picture in front wasn't catchy... then I would give them a shot.. And you know what? These books were fucking awesome! I berated myself for tossing them to begin with, which made me no better than a man who turns his eyes away the minute a fat woman comes across his line of sight!

Sure, you tell me I am outraged because I am a fat person. If I were thin, I wouldn't be giving this so much as a second thought. Well, guess what? That would be where you are wrong! As a kid, I was a very lean and fast (as in running, you perverts!) girl. I was a looker, by all means! I have photos to prove it! But, even then, I was infuriated every time I heard snide remarks about fat kids, ugly kids, stupid kids. I would come to their defense right quick, and try my best to make the person of the scorn feel better. It is not because I'm fat that I sympathize with others like myself; it is that I give a good goddamn about how people are treated!

Not long ago, I read that a certain person prefers to have a woman smaller than himself. Just another way of saying, "I don't want a fat woman." Fortunately, I know this person enough to know he didn't mean it in a demeaning way; He simply prefers his mate to be smaller. I guess that is understandable - who would want to be crushed under the weight of a fat person? But he at least does not shun fat people. Rather, he treats them with respect. For that, he earns brownie points with me!

If anyone I date tells me, "I will not marry you until you lose weight, because I want my woman healthy so that I can outlive you...because I love you too much to have you die first!" I would smack that bastard in the face so hard his head spins, and I will never speak to him again!

There are millions of fat people. We are not going to go away. Deal with us, and show us the respect you seem to reserve for your thinner counterparts.. We are fat and we are beautiful!

Fuck you for thinking otherwise.

Date: Thursday, November 12th, 2009 07:20 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bomonghanni.livejournal.com
First off....it is better to be pissed off than pissed on. I agree with you that it is wrong to hate, downgrade, demean, etc, FOR ANY REASON. But I would have to say that if a person truly cares for a person, and tells them they need to lose weight for concern for their health....that should be legitimate. We are the fattest of all nations....and have the most health issues. What a coincidence. -smile- I know there are pieces of crap out there who think thin is it...but who cares about what they think, save a fool. I....am overweight, fat, obese, heavy....and so on. With the chest pains, lack of energy, and decreased mobility...I know that I have to work out and get back into a better physical shape and conditioning. Does that mean I am down on myself? Quite the opposite. And, what is wrong with fat woman love? A woman who is overweight knows she is, and knows how to move with her weight. I have met some flexible and sexually charged big mamas. -ha-ha-ha--ha-ah-ha-ha- You know...in some countries, they have fat farms, because fat women are fine and desired. In the end, it is the socially acceptable view that rules. As a fat black man...socially acceptable in the USA has never been okay with me. Do I care? Why bother. There is more to life than what others think. Much Love.

Heh

Date: Thursday, November 12th, 2009 10:07 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lordjacknife.livejournal.com
I get to see first hand the medical issues that go with obesity. I still remember being floored at the 400+ lb patient who required extra people to get him in and out of the ambulance, when he heard about the person who broke the 800lb limit bariatric stretcher, he had the gall to say how do people let themselves get that, (800+), big?

O.o The pt already required more care than the average person. And in a way it's worse than the issues with smoking since it just flat out requires more personel to handle the people.

I also remember the Pt in ICU who got so large AND sedentary that she lost the ability to just inflate her lungs effectively. So they cut a whole in her throat under her voice box and put in a tube to inflate her lungs temporarily till a physical therapist could come in and work with her on just regaining the muscle mass with which to breath. :( She had to write me a note to ask me to get her nurse to, "please wipe my butt, I'm getting a yeast infection." She couldn't do it herself because she let herself lose the ability. It wasn't glandular. It wasn't any other medical issue other than lack of will to cut back on eating and get up and walk for exercise.

And personally, transporting these patients makes me feel ashamed that I'm fat. Makes me embarrassed that my clothes are straining against my body. Makes me worried that if I don't get a grip on my eating that I could end up like these people.

So no, being fat is not ok. And I'm not talking anorexia. That's gross in and of itself. Strive to be healthy. Strive to not get early heart issues that force you to be bed confined because your heart can't give you the strength to move, and you're too heavy for other people to easily move. Obesity to me is in the same category as smoking, drinking, and illicit drug use. But it's more personal to me since it is an issue I personally struggle with.

So I'm sorry if this pisses you off, but I hate seeing people say fat is ok.

And on an aside to that. While it's stupid to judge people by what they look like, judging and enjoying are two different things. Different people value different sensual stimulation. The main reason I chose the apartment I'm in now is the parkside view. ;p (Which is part of the reason I HATE getting up before the sun rises.)

Re: Heh

Date: Thursday, November 12th, 2009 12:19 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hellsphreak.livejournal.com
Where in my post did I say it is healthy to be fat? Nowhere! I do understand the health aspect of being fat, but I was not talking about that.. I was talking about being treated like dirt just because we have some pounds on us. I've seen a perfectly healthy, mobile chunky girl (extra padding you would say, rather than fat), get mocked at for her weight. Where the hell do we draw the line, here??

Re: Heh

Date: Thursday, November 12th, 2009 15:53 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lordjacknife.livejournal.com
People are mean. People mock people for any and everything. I've seen people be mocked for being too skinny, mocked for skin color, mocked for name, mocked for profession, mocked for a thousand and one different physical issues. Fat people aren't specifically targetted. Hell, I've seen people mock people for their hair. (I'm guilty of making jokes about emo hair cuts.)

It sucks, but that's the way people are. I would say the line looks like a big circle.

Now on the flip side, I do kinda wish society would do some more mocking of people with other unhealthy behaviors, like smoking, chronic drinking, and doing drugs to the point of ruining their lives and others.

In general, mocking anyone for anything is bad. :( Saying it's ok for someone to continue in an unhealthy behavior all for the sake of being respectful to me is just as bad. Hence, personally, I try not to say anything at all if I can't say anything nice. Although there are times when I got overstuffed with food that I do kinda wish someone had been around to oink at me as I ate the food... *shrugs*

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